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The next development of NAC Meeting, the AIRF conveyed uner flash news on its official portal. The date of Next National Anomaly Committee Meeting was announced and the agenda points has already been published on its website. The 5th and  next meeting of NAC will be held on 17.7.2012 (Tuesday) in New Delhi at 3.00 PM.

Employees are much awaited to settle in the respect of their organization issues in the forth coming meeting by the Staff side members. The Ministry of Personnel, PG & Pensions has sent the order to all Staff side members to directly, not in the official website yet. We  have reproduced the order, which was published by AIRF, is given below for your information…

No.11/2/2008-JCA

Government of India

Ministry of Personnel, PG & Pensions

Department of Personnel & Training

North Block, New Delhi,

Dated, the 18th June, 2012

OFFICE MEMORANDUM

Subject : Meeting of the National Anomaly Committee – 17th July, 2012 at 3.00 PM

The undersigned is directed to refer to OM of even number dated 2nd December, 2011 regarding the 4th meeting of the National Anomaly Committee which was held on 5th January, 2012. All the Agenda Items placed before it could not be discussed and the meeting had to be adjourned. This meeting will now be held in Committee Room No.119, North Block, New Delhi on 17th July, 2012 at 3.00 PM.

It is requested that you may kindly make it convenient to attend this meeting and also kindly confirm your participation urgently. Agenda Notes for the meeting will remain the same as were circulated earlier vide this Ministry’s OM of even number dated 16th December, 2011.

sd/-

(Ashok Kumar)

Deputy Secretary to the Govt. of India

Phone :011-23092589

Email : ashok.kalra@nic.in

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  1. dabal singh says:

    Sir, I joined as peon 2nd of February, 1990 and got promotion as LDC on 22nd December, 199 then got ACP on 2nd Feb 2010 . Today my basic pay is Rs. 10490/-
    While some emploies joined their duty as peon in the year 1991 and are still MTS(Group ‘D’) they gotd their 2nd ACP in the year 2011 and are getting basic pay Rs.10600 or more.
    If I would have been group ‘D’ to day, my basic pay would more then their pay. Why

  2. dabal singh says:

    Sir, I joined as peon 2nd of February, 1990 and got promotion as LDC on 22nd December, 1999 then got ACP on 2nd Feb 2010 . Today my basic pay is Rs. 10490/-
    While some emploies joined their duty as peon in the year 1991 and are still MTS(Group ‘D’) they gotd their 2nd ACP in the year 2011 and are getting basic pay Rs.10600 or more.
    If I would have been group ‘D’ to day, my basic pay would more then their pay. Why

  3. A K GARG says:

    1 Upgradation of grade pay from Rs 4200 to Rs 4800 in PB 2 to
    General Manager Departmental canteen working in ministry of Defence under DOP&T (to save the goodwill of the apex post of General Manager because he is controlling and managing the 22 Nos. staff of canteen. The apex post of the General Manager in the hierachy of the canteen cadre has always been filled by promotion from the feeder grades of DGM, Manager gd II etc.) Due to merger of pay scales by 6CPC General Manager carrying the same grade pay as per their juniors Manager Gd II , DGM and Accountant cum Manager i.e.Rs4200 which is cause of functional disturbance. Befor 6CPC GM was in the scale of 5500-9000 and Manager Gd II etc were in 5000-8000 pay scales. This can be seen from the hierachical chart of canteen cadre post at para 3 after the Vth CPC, when the feeder grades of DGM etc were upgraded to Rs 5000-8000 from Rs 4000-6000, then also consequently DOP&T upgraded the pay scale of General Manager from Rs 5000-8000 to Rs 5500-9000, A similar situation has now taken place whereby the apex post of General Manager has been brought at par with the feeder grades i.e Manager gd II,DGM etc. This anomaly warrants reconsideration on lines of post Vth CPC upgradation order of DOP&T OM No. 13/10/2001-Dir(c) dated 22 Dec. 2004.

    2 Designation of Manager gd II should be changed as Manager because there is no post of Manager gd I in Deptl Canteen of M.O. Defence , Therefore the designation of Manager gd II in the absence of Manager gd I does not arise. Please take on prioritty and include in the agenda of 5th meeting of anomaly committee of 17th July 2012.

    I request our National JCM leaders to raise our issue.

    Your favourable action in this matter will be highly obliged .

    A K GARG
    General Secretary
    AFHQ Canteen Employees Association.

  4. NARENDRA DOSHI says:

    Dear sir,
    DATE OF NEXT INCREMENT–AGENDA ITEM No.5(v):-
    My normal date of increment was 1.5.2006. but,I retired on 31stJanuary,2006 (AN)(i.e.w.e.f.01-02-2006).Please clarify whether I am eligible for the additional increment in pre-revised scale on 1.1.2006 and also for re-fixation of pension as well as get other retirement benefit since I was in service as on 01-01-2006?
    The Ministry’s order is not clear whether Govt.employees retired between FEBRUARY AND JUNE, 2006 and whose normal date of increment was between the said period (FEB.2005 to JUNE,2005)will get one time increment as on 01-01-2006 as they were on duty on that date i.e. 01-01-2006 ,although Confederation of Central Government Employees as intimated as under
    THIS WILL BE APPLICABLE TO ALL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AS ON DUTY ON 1.1.2006 AND WHOSE DATE OF INCREMENT WAS BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND JUNE, 2006 WOULD BE NOW GIVEN AN INCREMENT IN THE PRE-REVISED SCALE OF PAY AS ‘ONE TIME MEASURE’ AND THEN AGAIN REFIXED WITH ANOTHER INCREMENT IN THE NEW PAY ON 1.7.2006.ALL SUCH OFFICIALS WHOSE PAY WILL BE REFIXED W.E.F. 1.1.2006 SHOULD GET ARREARS AND OFFICIALS WHO RETIRED AFTER 1.1.2006 WILL GET THEIR PENSION UPWARDLY REVISED WITH ALL CONSEQUENTIAL RETIREMENT BENEFITS.
    In view of the above,please clarify the position
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  5. Pay fixed for promotees low compared to open/direct recruits to same post

    Request to
    1) Fix minimum basic pay of promotees at par with direct recruits in the same scale.
    2) Grant of additional increment in the new scale of 6th cpc for Feb-June joiners instead of pre-revised scale

    Joined on 01/02/2008 in 8000-275-13500 with basic – 8000
    As per 6th cpc pay fixed to PB-3 on 01-02-2008 as 15600+GP-5400=21000
    1st increment on July 2009 & after 2nd increment on July 2010, Basic pay – 22280 (16880+GP-5400)
    Got promotion to GP-6600 in PB-3 on 1-2-2011, Basic pay fixed to 24150 (17550+GP-6600) as per 6th cpc
    After increment in July 2011, basic pay fixed to 24880 (18280+GP-6600)

    Salary of open/direct recruits who joined on Nov 2011 to same post ie GP-6600 in PB-3 is fixed as 25350 (18750+GP-6600)

    So we promotees are getting lesser pay as compared to the open/direct recruits
    Even though the anomaly committee granted one additional increment to Feb-June joiners, our issue is not solved since the increment is granted on pre-revised basic and both 8000 & 8275 has been fixed to 15600+GP-5400 in 6th cpc fitment table. So we won’t get an increment actually.

  6. Sufferer says:

    One increment has been granted to those who were having their annual increment due from FEB. to JUNE-2006 in pre-revised scale. But some of them who were promoted before 2006 and due to get 02 increments (one promotional & one annual , by fixation from date on next increment) during FEB. to JUNE-2006 in pre-revised scale and could not got their promotional increment, thus causing a huge loss to them apart from losing seniority. It is therefore requested to all members of the National Anomaly Committee that this anomaly also may be considered for discussion in the next Anomaly Committee Meeting. The Government side should also not have much problem on granting one pre-revised promotional increment on 01-01-2006 to such unlucky personnel (on similar line & along with one- time increment already granted for FEB. to JUNE-2006 cases) for re-fixation purpose .

  7. Viajy Bhoria says:

    From my point of view, there are not any anomaly because in six pay commission there are provision, individual could opt six pay commission from the date of his next increment.

  8. Hira Nand says:

    Dear sir
    I would like to draw the kind attention of all the members (both staff & official) regarding BLUNDER ANOMALIES discussed in earlier meeting point No 8 in which GP of hierarchy in MACP given which create jealous & hatred among staff of same post with difference of joining period of two/ three months or even a single day ( before or after 31-8-84) particularly the JE`s of CPWD,DDA,MCD,DUSIB& other Govt Deptt. generally they did not got promotions even after 25 years of successful service. Those JE`s join BEFORE 31-8-84 will get the GP of 6600 in II ACP& 7600 in III MACP and Those JE`s join AFTER 31-8-84 will get the GP of 4800 in II M ACP& 5400 in III MACP. The difference of salary will be more than Rs 6000 at present which may increases up to Rs35000 and total difference will be Rs 39,00,000/-though they performs the same duties which is against the Govt own policy SAME POST SAME WORK SAME SALARY.
    It is suggested that in MACP Of 10-20-30 should be amended to 12-24-30 with same PB&GP as promotional for 12-24 and for 3rd MACP. after 30 years may be next GP of hierarchy for all, does not violate the rule same post same work same salary as against 10-20-30. It is prayed/appealed/ humble requested to look into genuine anomaly and do the justice. And same should be added in the agenda for next NAC meeting .
    THANKS

    FROM
    HIRA NAND
    9717999128

    Table shows the comparison of ACP Vs MACP with some assumption of DA,
    7 th CPC HRA PB GP TA etc

    MACP ACP Difference in Rs
    Date of joining 01-09-84 31-08-84
    Post JE JE
    Scale on 31-12-05 8300 8300

    6th cpc on 1-1-06 PB 15440 15440

    GP 4600 4600

    salary 00
    Pay on 1-08-08 PB 17310 17310

    GP 4600 4600

    Total pay 33845 33845 00
    II ACP Not eligible 31-08-08
    II MACP 01-09-08

    Pay on 01-09-08 PB 17970 18600

    GP 4800 6600

    DA 16% 3643 4032
    HRA 30% 6831 7560

    TA 1 856 3712

    Total 35100 40504 5404
    Pay on 1-07-12 PB 20850 21780

    GP 4800 6600

    DA 72% 18468 20434
    HRA 30% 7695 8514

    TA 2702 5504

    Total 54515 62832 8317
    Pay on 1-09-14 PB 23240 24430
    (III MACP)

    GP 5400 7600

    DA 100% 28640 32030
    HRA 30% 8592 9609

    TA 3200 6400
    Total 69072 80069 10997
    Pay on 1-01-16 PB 64900 72580
    (7th CPC)
    GP 16200 22800

    DA 0% 00 00
    HRA 30% 24330 28614

    TA 4800 9600

    Total 110230 133594 22704
    Pay on 1-12-20 (retired) PB 77840 87800
    GP 16200 22800

    DA 36% 33854 39816
    HRA 30% 28212 33180

    TA 6528 13056
    Total 162634 196652 34018
    Last Pay on retirement PB 77840 87800

    GP 16200 22800

    DA 36% 33854 39816
    total 127894 150416 22522
    RETIREMENT BENEFITS PENSION 63947 75208
    PENSION 45139 53088 7949
    Leave in cash 1278940 1504160
    Gratuity 2110251 2481864

    40% commute 1880800 2212000

    total 5269991 6198024 928033
    Total pay till retirement 8285780 9849428 1563648
    PENSION for 15 years 8125020 9555840 1430820
    Grand TOTAL 21680791 25603292 3922501

  9. Dear sir
    I would like to draw the kind attention of all the members (both staff & official) regarding BLUNDER ANOMALIES discussed in earlier meeting point No 8 in which GP of hierarchy in MACP given which create jealous & hatred among staff of same post with difference of joining period of two/ three months or even a single day ( before or after 31-8-84) particularly the JSOsS who are working under Ministry of Agriculture GOI though they have been selected throuh UPSC same agency &performs the same duties but some have been kept in GP of 4800/- and some have been kept in GP of 5400/-which is against the Govt own policy SAME POST SAME WORK SAME SALARY. and it is bringing great frustations among JSOs . Solution is highly needed from Anamoly committee as early as possible
    It is suggested that even old ACP may be allowed to those who wants to get higher GP of Rs 5400/- because it is backing us about 20 Years . It is prayed/appealed/ humble requested to look into genuine anomaly and do the justice. And same should be added in the agenda for next NAC meeting .
    Dr.A.S. Rajput JSO, RCOF ,Min. of Agriculture ,Jabalpur mob. 09993887287
    THANKS

  10. S Rajagopalachari says:

    Retired on 31st July 1982 from Central Govt, dept of communications after 38 years of service.
    In the senior Class I grade (maximum of old grade>I am one of unfortunate pensioner having retired pre 1986 scale. As per 5th pay commission, I was fixed on pension of Rs.5453 as on 1-1-1996. My date of birth is 23rd July 1924. Again as per 6th Pay comm. scales, my revised pension was fixed as Rs.12326/- taking some notional for pre-1-1-1986 retirees/ Here I should have got atleast minimum of PB4 and the corresponding GP etc. My pension Pay Order No. is: 210018437. Kindly do the needful as I have just completed 88 years. Govt should take up cases of pensioners of above 85 years first and decide as per the judgement of the CAT order recently.

  11. Muni Lal Kashyap says:

    Sub: MACP

    Respected Sir,

    1. Appointed as S.O.M Gd.Rs.1400-2300 vide RRB/CDG,L.No.EN-1/88,Dt.06/11/89 & DPO/UMB/NR/UMB,.No.220-E/100/SOM/P-I,Dt.28/11/89 & Joined as apprentice SOM in pay scale Rs.1400-2300 on 01.02.1990 vide DPO/NR/UMB,No.220-E/100/UMB/P-I, Dt.31.01.1990.
    2. Joined as regular SOM in pay scale Rs.1400-2300 on 05.03.1991 vide DPO/NR/UMB, LNo.220-E/100/UMB/P-I,Dt.04.03.1991.
    3. As per 5th CPC fixed in pay scale Rs.4500-7000+100 w.e.f. 01.01.1996. as SOM.
    4. After completion of 12 Years regular service under ACP fixed pay scale Rs.5000-8000 w.e.f. 05.03.2003 as SOM, vide DPO/NR/UMB LNo.754-E/01/ACP/Works/P-3, Dt.8.05.2003.
    5. Due to merging of posts of (SOM) Supervisor/works Gd.Rs.4500+7000+100 in the cadre of JE/II/Works Gd. Rs.5000-8000 w.e.f. 01.11.2003 again fixed in pay scale 5000-8000 as JE/II/Works vide DPO/NR/UMB, LNo.754-E/V/Works/Rest/P-3, Dt.20.04.2005.
    6. As per 6th CPC fixed in PB-II Rs.9300-34800-4200 w.e.f. 01.01.2006. as JE/II/Works.
    7. Ist MACP given and fixed in PB-II Rs.9300-34800-4600 w.e.f. 01.09.2008 vide DPO/NR/UMB, LNo.754-E/01/MACPS/Engg./UMB/P-3, Dt.29.03.2010.
    Sir, I am due or not for IInd MACP in PB-II 9300-34800-4800 w.e.f. 05.03.2011.
    Yours faithfuliy,
    ( Muni Lal JE/Works)

  12. DATTU SHELKE says:

    sir, I would like to know that on 7 Jan 2013 dopt issued a order related to give one increment to those whose promotion falls in same grade pay . To those increment for promotion in v pay where given. in v cpc in our establishment mazdoor pay scale was 2550-3200, Jr.counter 2650-3300, Examiner 2750-3700. All above post merged in 1800/- Grade Pay in VI cpc. Now in 2012 I was promoted as Examiner . Would I get one increment benefit as per the order . As all the above post are in 1800/- grade pay. As the post which is promoted is a higher responsibility post and benefit in v cpc were given under rule FR 22 (a) 1.

  13. Vijay Kumar says:

    Sir I want to give me an opinion regarding GPF interest.

    I was an employee of IWAI (Statutory & Autonomous Body under Ministry of Shipping, GOI) has given me 1,28,223/- through my new Department and not given me an
    interest during 2011-12 & 2012-13. I
    have applied for an interest but they have said due to administrative reason we
    can not allow interest on your subscription. I have given you some facts regarding this issue.

    I was relieved on technical resignation on 30th November, 2010 A/N and I have
    joined GNCTD on 01.12.2010 FN. My lien discontinue on 30.11.2011 and our prorata
    pension has come in May, 2012 and Leave Encashment & Gratuity send on October,
    2012 and my service count in December 2012 and my Gpf no. is allotted on Feb.
    2013 and my subscription has come in May, 2013. But they have given me a statement
    2010-11 then balance 1,28,223/- is send and not given me interest two years 2011-
    12 & 2012-13. So you give me an opinion in this regard. I have given Govt. of
    India Decision No.3 Rule -11 in this regard. But they are not convincing. Please
    kindly suggest me rule position/ office memorandum/circular/notification in this regard.
    With regards,
    Vijay Kumar

  14. Sir, the employees working in defence telephone exchanges all over india (Army, Air, or Navy) are appointed in the grade pay of Rs. 2000/- & on completion of 16 years of service his/her grade pay is 4200/- this is all what a great justification the person who has 16+ year of service and the person who has 32+ years of service both are getting the same grade pay is it justified? is there any body in the anomoly committee to look into the matter.